3 Agencies on How to Get Super Actionable Client Feedback

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Jakob Pernvik (Triggerfish), Sofia Sundström (SthlmConnection) and Tobias Bard (Prototyp)

Constant learning is a requirement for developing your business. It starts with an active agency-client feedback loop. I talked to three agencies about how to get feedback that lets them continuously improve.

Getting honest, specific and actionable feedback is necessary for your company to learn and grow. Yet it’s something many agencies lack processes or tools for or sometimes even go about entirely the wrong way. Buyers are indeed getting tired of being asked for feedback, whether they’re companies or consumers:

“So many organisations now want our feedback that if we acceded to them all, it would turn into a full-time job – unpaid, of course, so that we could no longer afford to buy anything or go anywhere (maybe it’s all a clever green ploy). The result is that I’m suffering from feedback fatigue and have decided to go on a feedback strike.” – Anne Karpf, The Guardian

To find out how agencies can do it successfully, I asked three how they collect client feedback and use it to improve how they work.

“If You Had a Chance to Do It All Over Again, What Would You Have Done Differently?”

Jakob Pernvik is the CEO of Triggerfish, a digital agency specializing in WordPress. They get feedback at several different points during the course of a project.
Jakob Pernvik is the CEO of Triggerfish, a digital agency specializing in WordPress. They get feedback at several different points during the course of a project.

Triggerfish describes itself as one of the leading WordPress agencies in the Nordics for large, complex and challenging projects. Jakob says his passion is in creating a work environment where team members thrive, and clients excel. Keeping and supporting the members to grow are responsibilities that inspire him.

That’s what Jakob Pernvik’s company, Triggerfish, situated in the hip neighborhood of Södermalm in Stockholm, asks of their clients and those involved in a project after finishing it. They do it using a survey. Also, they ask the team who worked with the client for feedback and insights. “It’s turned out to be vital to hear the perspectives and insights of the team,” says Jakob.

“After we’ve collected all the responses, the project manager and some members of the team meet to analyze the written feedback we’ve received. At this meeting, we present data, go through each project milestone, discuss how those involved perceived the process and what can be done differently next time.” They document the outcome of this meeting share it with those who participated in the project.

Using Feedback to Improve Project Outcome

Jakob tells me they also organize a meeting 4-6 months after the launch of the site to discuss and analyze how well they’ve managed to achieve the goals of the project. They discuss the project results as well as future work on the client’s digital communication strategy and platform.

You can find out more about Triggerfish on their website.

“It’s Important That Everyone Involved Feels That We Care About Each Other and Can Truly Appreciate Positive and Negative Feedback”

Sofia Sundström is the CEO of SthlmConnection, a distributed digital agency. She emphasizes the importance of empathy when asking for feedback.
Sofia Sundström is the CEO of SthlmConnection, a distributed digital agency. She emphasizes the importance of empathy when asking for feedback.

SthlmConnection describes itself as a strategic digital agency that works with design, innovation, and empathy to create sustainable digital solutions that make humans and organizations thrive.

“We constantly ask for feedback,” Sofia writes in an email from her office in the Swedish mountain resort of Åre. “We care about having transparent relationships with frequent opportunities to provide feedback about not just results, but also the collaboration itself.” She says collaboration is very much about giving and receiving feedback.

Feedback Comes in Different Shapes and Forms

They also run a retrospective upon project completion or several on a regular basis, if the project is long. Sometimes things pop up, and we ask more spontaneously. It’s very much down to gut feel, says Sofia.

Retrospectives are a crucial aspect of working agile. Briefly, a retrospective meeting consists of looking back at the last sprint (or project milestone) and seeing what can be learned and done better or differently in the future. A retrospective usually results in a couple of actions which the team commits to doing.

She says they just started sending out surveys to customers. In these surveys, they ask how the client perceives the results and the collaboration, as a whole and in specific projects.

They also ask for feedback when losing bids to learn more about what can be improved and what things the client values.

But apart from these surveys, feedback is very much about intuition and gut feel, she says. “Sometimes we send an email, other times we call. Sometimes we have questions prepared or just ask for feedback and let the client take the initiative during the meeting.”

You Need to Put Yourself in the Client’s Shoes To Hear Feedback

“The best thing is when you can talk eye to eye with the client,” Sofia says. “It’s important to them, and us, that we have established a foundation where everyone involved feels that we care about each other and can truly appreciate positive and negative feedback. With such a foundation, there can be a good dialog and people won’t hesitate to give or receive even quite harsh criticism. After all, everyone involved knows that the purpose is to work together to achieve an even better result.”

She adds: “It’s also important, in all contexts, to show empathy. If I put myself in the client’s shoes I can better understand why we receive certain feedback or why we’re not receiving any feedback at all. That makes it easier for me to grasp and manage the situation.”

Create a Trusting and Open Dialog to Prevent Issues to Fester

If the feedback concerns an ongoing project, they act on it immediately, says Sofia. “It’s truly super important to act immediately and to be perceptive and receptive to client discontent. Every day something is left to fester makes the issue bigger. If you can build a relationship which encourages everyone to raise issues as soon as they occur, nothing needs to turn into a big problem.”

They share overarching feedback, such as the one received through surveys, within the team. Ideally, in the form of a workshop, she says. They prefer the workshop format as it lets them “twist and turn the issue to come up with solutions together.” She says the only exception is personal feedback, related to individual performance for example, which they do on a one-on-one basis.

“We strive to build a safe and trusting team so we can receive strong criticism without it breaking us. We rarely receive stinging criticism as long as we have an open and empathetic dialog with our clients. The few times it happens, we still try to manage it constructively, fully aware that everyone is doing their best and what we care about each other.”

As for positive feedback, that’s easy: “Positive feedback is shared wide and loud so that everyone on the team gets to hear and enjoy it.”

You can find out more about SthlmConnection on their website.

“When the Customer Is an Integral Part of the Project, Feedback Becomes Natural and Spontaneous”

Tobias Bard is the CEO of digital innovation agency Prototyp. They get constant feedback thanks to how they work.
Tobias Bard is the CEO of digital innovation agency Prototyp. They get constant feedback thanks to how they work.

Prototyp Stockholm describes itself as an award-winning digital innovation agency that uses agile prototyping to develop digital services building high user value. Tobias, CEO: “We believe that exceptional digital services are best built through fast iteration and testing, creating a strong argument for working with prototypes – which is our expertise. We are a small, passionate collection of talented and skilled individuals that view all our projects as the start of a long lasting and mutually beneficial partnership.”

“Our process is based on continuous feedback in the form of daily stand-ups, recurring and final project retrospectives. The fact that there’s no layer between developers and client helps create a constant and relevant conversation,” says Tobias Bard, CEO of digital innovation agency Prototyp.

No Structured Process for Collecting Feedback

He says that, perhaps unlike most other agencies, Prototyp has no structured process for collecting feedback. The feedback loop is part of the project and the work process. This means that the client needs to be actively participating and preferably on-site once per week, though they also use video and phone. Tobias emphasizes that they strive to be highly active in their projects and not through traditional project management. Their way of working demands close collaboration between their tech leads and the client project manager (or product owner) for project and product management. “It’s important to us that our tech leads are smack in the middle of the code which generates valuable insights in discussions at higher levels,” Tobias says.

Tobias says that the ones that have been most difficult to convince about this way of working are product owners. Prototyp doesn’t employ any project managers (for now), so they depend on the client to provide project direction. Many aren’t used to this way of working and prefer a more hands-off approach. Tobias says that even those who have been deeply skeptical at first have been won over eventually. “Many feel comfortable having a daily conversation,” says Tobias. He says this way of doing it is consistent with Prototyp’s “experimental approach” of “constantly making improvements and adapting.” Ongoing conversations are natural to Prototyp.

Talking While Walking Leads to Better Conversations

In addition to the above, Tobias says he regularly meets with clients to discuss current projects from the perspective of client/agency. He says he prefers to do this while walking. He used to go to many lunches but realized walking with clients makes for a better conversation.

Tobias says the best way to get actionable feedback is to figure out what you want the feedback to be about and asking specific questions. “Feedback is rarely good when you just ask someone to ‘provide feedback.’” Another option, he says, is to making your request for feedback part of the conversation further on, making it seem natural. People are rarely comfortable offering sincere and direct suggestions or criticism at first. You need to build rapport and create the right setting for an honest conversation. His preferred way of doing that is taking a walk, whether it’s a team member or a client.

A Retro General in Command of Retrospectives

The feedback they receive is part of the ongoing conversation about improvements. The company has appointed a “retro general” tasked with ensuring that retrospectives take place. Every retrospective results in at most three issues that they address in the next sprint. Tobias says that it’s important not to overcommit when it comes to improvements. Three is a number that seems perfect for them. They later evaluate the issues and mark them as fixed or reconsidered.

In addition to the project feedback, they also meet with the customers several times per year to look at how they can improve how they collaborate. 

You can find out more about Prototyp on their website.

Conclusion

How you ask for feedback depends on your company culture and way of working. Some agencies prefer to automate the process and rely on surveys while others take a more experimental and organic approach.

Some of my takeaways after talking with Jakob, Sofia, and Tobias are:

  • Surveys can be very useful if done right by asking laser-focused questions that are perceived by clients as relevant.
  • Following up work months later to evaluate business impact and outcomes is something that many clients appreciate and even expect a modern agency to do.
  • Asking for “feedback” rarely works. People aren’t likely to tell you anything useful, and they’re tired of being asked to provide general feedback. No one will offer feedback unless you ask specific questions knowing something will be done about it.
  • To receive honest feedback you need to establish trust so that people can speak candidly without fear. When hearing feedback, it’s important to be empathetic and not quick to judge. You’ll not hear an honest opinion unless the other person trusts you’ll handle it well.
  • Walking with people fosters better conversations and feedback than meeting over lunch or having a phone call.
  • You will want to nip issues in the bud before they have a chance to grow. One way of doing that is to have an ongoing conversation. A great way to do that is while walking together.

I’d like to thank Jakob, Sofia, and Tobias who generously gave me their time to be interviewed for this article.

 

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Author: Jakob Persson

Jakob is the founder and CEO of Zingsight, the company behind Bondsai. He's been involved with the web for over twenty years and has previously co-founded and grown a web agency from 4 to 70 people. Jakob holds degrees in media technology and cognitive science. He consults in product design and management, and business development. He's an experienced skier and a learning scuba diver.